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Tim N Taylor's avatar

I dislike, extremely, men in power who essentially ruin young women's lives. That includes Clinton, Clarence Thomas and Trump. And others of course. But these three have been present and in power despite their egregious juvenile behavior during my adulthood.

Elle Tatum's avatar

Many Thanks John, for giving us sme inside baseball on focus groups, polling, etc. The further Trump fall, the more relieved I get. To me, it would be fascinating to undertake a large, wide-ranging survey of Trump's hard-core base. They may still believe everything they did about him in the beginning, or maybe not. I find that when the Trump diehards I'm acquainted with are presented with conflicting information, they often refer back to generalized, almost rehearsed talking points, as if the retorts have been drilled into their subconscious. Such as, say, if I bring up migrants being arrested at a courthouse after an asylum hearing went in their favor, they'll say, "But they still broke the law when they came here illegally" or "They're still illegal," or whatever. Maybe not the best example. I did read, awhile back, about some HSA/ ICE memos surfacing during a federal court case, in which Homeland Security flatly stated that ICE Agents should not pick up people anywhere near immigration court proceedings.. Really?? The case is ongoing, I'll try and track it down. It

it was brought by some immigrant groups with the help of the ALCU, in NYC I believe. I know it's somewhat off-topic, but I was dumbfounded by that admission. Of course Karoline Leavitt or HSA or whomever responded on X, stating that of course ICE would continue to stalk immigration courts, that it's perfectly legal to snatch migrants after a "removal" order, but that's often not the case, when these folks dutifully show up for their ongoing asylum process. Sorry for the long comment, this has just been on my mind lately.

Cyn B's avatar

The problem is, ie wild card (and I have one in my family), there are people who despise Trump but will still vote republican because it is some sort of religion to them, even though the party has left all its roots behind. And omg, the number of republicans charged with sexual assault, child porn, etc. That alone should be enough to wake voters up to the sickness among, particularly, white republican men in power, but voters will still pull that red lever cause democrats might raise their taxes even though that it only likely to happen to people on an income level they will never see. It is shameful.

Elle Tatum's avatar

Great point. The "Democrats are evil" etc., made up entirely of liberal elites who want to spend all the $$$ on dead-end social programs and fully suport gender transition fpr all, even toddlers, is completely ingrained. Along with the idea that helping the poor creates utter and complete dependency on the government, taking away help from those who pull their weight, it just never ends. I firmly believe that even if we had experienced a vast increase in media outlets starting in the 2000s, without the internet, the brainwashing would have been less successful. But it's a self-perpetuating feedback loop that never ends!!